Whitefish Bay — In a hot, crowded meeting room Monday night, residents told Village Board members their stories of flood damage, sewer backups and neighbors helping neighbors during last month's flooding.
But in the end, they all pretty much had the same questions: Why us? Why here? What happens if it rains again?
There were more than 200 residents in a standing-room only crowd in the second meeting room at the library. The air conditioning didn't appear to be working, it was hot, and people wanted answers.
Some were calling for the firing of village staff, while others wanted more meetings to discuss solutions to the sewer backups.
Frustration mounts
Robert Crawford, 5017 N. Palisades Road, said he lost more than $35,000 worth of property in the two recent storms.
"I have lived all over and I have never had sewage come up through my toilets," said resident Robert Crawford, who told the board he lost more than $35,000 in property at his home on Palisades Road. "This is like living in a Third World city. This place is turning into a slum because the sewage system doesn't work and we need to make it work."
Residents are dealing with the aftermath of two heavy rainstorms that hit the area. On July 15, 102 houses had damaged from sewer backups after about 4 inches of rain fell, according to the village. Another 640 houses reported backups on July 22 after a rainfall of more than 8 inches.
Milwaukee County estimates that the July 22 storm caused more than $10 million in damage to homes and businesses in Whitefish Bay - more than any other community in the county, including Milwaukee.
Many hit numerous times
Among the many compelling stories about the July 22 event came from those residents who have been flooded multiple times. More than a dozen people said they have been flooded five times since 1997, with several dozen saying they have been flooded three times since 2008. They said they don't understand why the village cannot solve the problem that has led to multiple floods.
Some thought the many road and sewer construction projects in the village contributed to the flooding.
"I think the construction on Oakland added to this," said Don Strike, 4811 N. Bartlett Ave. "We never had back ups like this."
Tom and Corrina Trettin, 4975 N. Woodruff Ave., had five feet of water in their basement and water from the street reaching to their front and back doors.
"Anytime it rains more than an inch we have water in the intersection of Woodruff and Fairmount," he said.
Corrina Trettin told the board she believes the number of homes that had damage is much higher then reported. She developed a questionnaire and handed it out to neighbors and to people attending the meeting, passing the forms onto the village.
"My wife is passing out a questionnaire," Tom Trettin said. "I think that is sad. That is something the village should be doing."
Village Manager Jim Grassman gave the updated numbers, 102 houses with damage from sewer back ups on July 15 after about four inches of rain fell, 640 houses reporting backups on July 22 after a rainfall of more than 8 inches.
Grassman said rain water getting into the sanitary sewer system caused much of the problems in the village.
"Clear water in the system is the enemy of everyone," he said. Rain water enters sanitary sewers through cracks in the laterals to houses or in the sewers themselves.
He also sought to dispel a rumor in the village. Some believe the level of back ups in their basements dropped rapidly because someone opened a gate or pushed a button.
"There is no gate, no button," he said. "Our hypothesis is that as the water receded, it created capacity in the sewers for the flow out from the basements." People asked why the village did not do bypass pumping, pumping out the sewers and dumping into a storm sewer.
Grassman said that was not done because there was no place to pump to, the entire system was full, both storm and sanitary sewers. They are separate systems in the village, he noted.
His explanations did little to soothe residents.
Many were offended by a sheet of paper left on each chair in the room. The paper, provided by the village, explained how rain water enters private laterals. Some immediately thought the village was blaming residents for the back ups.
"This document blames the citizens of Whitefish Bay for the flood," said Mike Miller, 4842 N. Sheffield Ave.
Working to prevent rain water from entering the system is one solution that the Milwaukee Metropolitan Sewerage District supports.
Mike Martin of MMSD and a village resident said MMSD has a six year plan to fund repairs of private laterals.
There were perhaps a hundred questions asked. Village President Kathleen Pritchard said village staff would begin working on the answers to them, posting the answers of the village web site as information becomes available. Some questions will take some time to answer, she said, as data from the storm is analyzed.
Pritchard said more public meetings will likely be held to gather information and update residents. The item will be on the Village Board agenda for the foreseeable future, she said, and residents are always invited to attend those meetings.
Meg and Joe Jansky, 4611 N. Wildwood Ave., live one house north of the village border with Shorewood. They had water up to the first floor.
They want to know if the village and Shorewood will work together to solve the sewer problems. But more than that they worry about the sound of a heavy rain.
"I'm scared about what to do when it rains again," said Meg Jansky who said her family fled their home on July 22. "Can you answer that question first?"
No one had an answer to that question.
102
Number of homes that experienced sewer backups in Whitefish Bay after the July 15 rainstorm
640
Number of backups reported after the July 22 storm
$10.7 million
Total flood damage estimate in Whitefish Bay
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@Aedellis - It's easy to spout hatred from behind your computer, isn't it? No
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No Difference!
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Having watched the video taken on Oakland Ave. on the Milwaukee - Shorewood boarder, you tell me that this was a sewer problem? No, it was a heavy rain problem. This video is on YOU TUBE. Watch it. Look at the extreme amount on water running in the street. No sewer system in the world could deal with something like this. I saw the emotions of some of the people at the Whitefish Bay meeting. What do they expect from a village council to do? Stop the rain? I got news for all of the world. It's going to get worse as the years go by. Call it global warming or as Bush would call it, global climate change, more extreme things are on the way. A killing frost in the growing season would do a lot to create a food stortage, more snow in winter to stall any movement from the storm, droughts over many growing regions, etc., it's coming. We will be seeing widespread deads and destruction from many coming events." The end is near!" The "rapture" is coming. God will not save you either. Sounds nuts, doesn't it?
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I'm glad this town hall meeting is taking place. Finally the "burbs" of Milwaukee County get a taste of what the inner city has been dealing with for over 30 years. as a child I can remember have a swimming pool in front of our house, not knowing the impact my parents were going through having to buy a new washing machine, dryer, furnace, and multiple other items. I won't even comment on the personal things that couldn't be replaced. The Lincold Creek Project, ie MMSD deep tunnel project was supposed to rectify this problem. Now that it has affected your basements..............Maybe something will be done.
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What happened on that week was a freak storm that dropped a crazy amount of water, more than most sewage systems just weren't prepared to handle. While I agree that the system should be looked at, we shouldn't try to plan for something that may happen once in a lifetime. Should we require all houses to be certified against a 8.0 magnitude earthquake because in the last few years there have been some earthquakes in the area?
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Back to topBadger79 - Aug 11, 2010 9:15 AM - Report Abuse
sympathy? Financially stable or poor, if someone's home floods and they lose
thousands of dollars in property, it's sad. These people did nothing to
deserve the losses they sustained. Sure, it may not be the city's fault that
their sewers backed up, but you're getting a little carried away with your
ignorance and pure stupidity. If it was your basement that flooded would you
be writing the same comments? Let's just hope it never happens to you. Or
maybe we should hope it happens to you so you know how it feels.
MKE no friend of UWM - Aug 08, 2010 3:31 PM - Report Abuse
That's the problem. There is no difference between the city and the North Shore. The City of Milwaukee has been ran by socialists (Seriously, Milwaukee was the last major city to have a Socialist Mayor-1978) and democrats for over 65 years. Milwaukee is one of the major cities that has a huge poverty problem and they have all been run by liberals, progressives, and socialists.
The North Shore, Shorewood & Whitefish Bay in particular, are supposed to be a step above the City of Milwaukee. Shorewood actually seceded from Milwaukee in 1900 because of the quality of roads.
We pay more in taxes and expect a better quality of life, including a sewer that doesn't back up and you can't completely insure against.
Shorewood and Whitefish Bay residents need to wake up and smell the basements flooding as a symbol of the miserable job their socialist, liberal, and progressive officials and ideology have gotten them.
It is time for the North Shore to GROW. Take of the SHACKLES and let this are grow, build and be STRONG again.
Let's DETACH from MMSD and take on the problem ourselves. Create our own INDEPENDENT SEWERAGE & WATER DISTRICT (ISWD) and combine this with new building and development to allow our communities to grow our TAX BASE and lower the overall cost of living in the North Shore.
While we're at it, we should combine our school districts and allow the 20+ acres of prime real estate Shorewood's crumbling and inefficient High School now occupies. Use the proceeds of the sale and future tax revenues to build a new, inspiring, energy efficient and student efficient High School.
We don't need this many administrators and we definitely don't need 2 superintendents.
Clean water, separate sewers and combined schools with goal of allowing the market to rebuild our commercial and residential areas freely and without undue regulations and taxes.
mrbenny - Aug 06, 2010 6:38 PM - Report Abuse
Hustleevryday - Aug 05, 2010 5:08 PM - Report Abuse
Aedilis - Aug 05, 2010 2:35 PM - Report Abuse
My favorite comments from the article:
"This document blames the citizens of Whitefish Bay for the flood." Well if the shoe fits. The definition of a private sewer lateral (or private lateral) is the pipe that transports waste water from a building to the public sewer
main in the street. So the government is now responsible for your private property too?
Let me guess, you want the government to fix the problem, but of course, you don't want your taxes raised as well. I thought the people of Whitefish Bay were predominantly Republican. I guess it's a different story when you are in need of something from the government.
"I'm scared about what to do when it rains again. Can you answer that question?"
This question is so horribly naive and silly that I can't possibly answer it. It sounds like something my 5 year old would ask. Are you serious? Oh..My..God.. This is like, such a tragedy. I mean, something bad happened to my perfect world. My collection of Crocs and Louis Vuitton purses are gone!
With the median family income there being $95,744 the only suggestion I could have for you is to go stay at the lake house up north or go for a vacation to the Bahamas until your insurance check comes in. That's what you can do.
In conclusion, the only sympathy I have for anyone in WhiteFolks Bay on this subject stopped at the 'no one was seriously injured' line. Beyond that, you upper middle class people can go pound sand.